Caching Places on Startup

[musikhall]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

Just loaded V11.0.5 last night. After reboot ran fine this morning and was shut down normally but this evening came up immediately and wanted to cache places. This will take several hours - my database contains 1,061,000 individuals - data file is under 500M in size - no images.

This has never occurred with V10 - I have reverted back.

I'll monitor post, but for now I can't take several hours to bring the program online. If anyone has some pixie dust, please let me know.

[Paul Reitz]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

There is another solution. Stop quitting Reunion. In fact, stop shutting down your Mac.

Hmm, I'd prefer this new and wonderful behavior be fixed. Don't recall having seen it before 11.0.5 unless Reunion or the machine crashed.

In this case, it's not Dropbox (don't use), or machine conflicts (one laptop). I thought it happened randomly, but since I don't restart the app that often; it may be nearly every time. It's certainly become noticeable. 620 MB family file, ~ 31,000 individuals, but lots of pics.

I usually put the laptop to sleep without quitting Reunion, until memory use creeps up. Freshly re-started and cached, it uses 53 MB 'real' memory. After running a few days, it's around 300 MB, IIRC. Still a miser compared to Safari!!

I've not timed the cache process, but that doesn't bother me too much - it doesn't prevent using other apps because it doesn't monopolize the processors. What strikes me odd is that, cycling through apps while it's working, it doesn't refresh the screen until caching has finished.

-Paul

MBP 6,2 8GB/SSD/OS 10.6.8

[genealogist.lily]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

I experience this "caching" often - starting with 11.0. I kept waiting for someone else to question it (I hate to complain when I love Reunion to bits). Someone did - finally - and yet the topic drifted off to other issues … I'm glad to see it back again! My 109,000-name file takes about 30 seconds to cache (not hours) but, I guess the question is, "Why?" Why does it happen when it didn't before? And why "places" and not something like "names"? Tks! ~Lily

[Tony Knight]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

I experience this "caching" often - starting with 11.0. I kept waiting for someone else to question it (I hate to complain when I love Reunion to bits). Someone did - finally - and yet the topic drifted off to other issues … I'm glad to see it back again! My 109,000-name file takes about 30 seconds to cache (not hours) but, I guess the question is, "Why?" Why does it happen when it didn't before? And why "places" and not something like "names"? Tks! ~Lily

The one difference that I noticed with places in R11 was the removal of the cap on the display of usage. Thus I now know that Salt Lake City, Salt Lake County, Utah, USA is used 12,683 times whereas with R10 I think it simply said over 7500 if I remember correctly.

I currently have 26,501 places.

As an example of the caching. This morning I started on my iMac. Once the latest file had downloaded from I started R11 and it immediately started to cache. When I finished and the revised file had been uploaded to Dropbox I shut the iMac down.

This afternoon, same procedure, but on my MacBookPro. It loaded straight up.

[Mark]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

A quick question for those experiencing this issue: do you use Find & Replace regularly, e.g. almost every time you work with your Family File?

If not, is there any thing that you do almost every time you use the application. For example, is there a specific Sidebar or List window that you have open when you quit the application, etc.

Thanks,

[Tony Knight]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

A quick question for those experiencing this issue: do you use Find & Replace regularly, e.g. almost every time you work with your Family File?

If not, is there any thing that you do almost every time you use the application. For example, is there a specific Sidebar or List window that you have open when you quit the application, etc.

Thanks,

Mark

I have never used Find & Replace.

I would normally have either the People or Places sidebar open when I quit

Tony

[Dennis J. Cunniff]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

A quick question for those experiencing this issue: do you use Find & Replace regularly, e.g. almost every time you work with your Family File? If not, is there any thing that you do almost every time you use the application.

My sidebar is usually People. To consider: besides the usual editing, I nearly always do a match & merge. I haven't made note of whether this affects a caching on next reopen.

[genealogist.lily]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

A quick question for those experiencing this issue: do you use Find & Replace regularly, e.g. almost every time you work with your Family File?

If not, is there any thing that you do almost every time you use the application. For example, is there a specific Sidebar or List window that you have open when you quit the application, etc.

Thanks,

Find and replace is not something I use. My main focus is adding lots of newspaper clippings in my documents folder and updating my files with the info provided therein. My documents folder is in Applications >Reunion Stuff > which also has separate folders for all of my data bases, charts, graphics, pictures. I do occasionally merge locations... i.e., Cornwall ON, may be merged with Cornwall (Stormont) ON. Is this the problem spot? ~Lily

[theKiwi]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

A quick question for those experiencing this issue: do you use Find & Replace regularly, e.g. almost every time you work with your Family File?

If not, is there any thing that you do almost every time you use the application. For example, is there a specific Sidebar or List window that you have open when you quit the application, etc.

Thanks,

Well now that you mention it specifically...

I did quite some effort on the places in my 77,000 person file today tidying up oddities I noticed as I compared the list exported from Reunion to a table dump out of MySQL on my TNG. I did some of these changes in the Places listing and some by Find and Replace (e.g. changing "possibly xxxxx" or "of xxxxxx" to "possibly, xxxxx" and "of, xxxxx" respectively)

I quit Reunion, and then on the next opening to fix something else I got the "Caching Places" dialogue - first time I can recall seeing it.

The next reopening of the file did NOT produce the Caching Places dialogue.

I assume from the nature of your question that what I saw was perhaps "normal"?

Roger

[Tom Robinson]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

Please clarify, Tom, as it sounds like you are on both sides of the fence. You start off sounding like you favor shutting down and you end up saying to put them to sleep -- which is exactly what I do.

I thought by 'leaving on 24/7' you meant not putting your computer to sleep, so we're in agreement

Even on my aging MacBook Pro I could barely measure the difference in power usage between being asleep and shut down; and as you say, sleeping rather than shutting down leads to a much faster startup.

[Paul Reitz]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

A quick question for those experiencing this issue: do you use Find & Replace regularly, e.g. almost every time you work with your Family File?

If not, is there any thing that you do almost every time you use the application. For example, is there a specific Sidebar or List window that you have open when you quit the application, etc.

Thanks,

Never use find & replace. Sidebars I use often are People, Sources, Multimedia and Places. Most likely to have been left open behind the main window, when quitting, is the People List.

-Paul

[Mark]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

I believe we may have found the cause of the place caches getting rebuilt - thanks, everyone, for the input.

[Tony Knight]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

It has not happened since I installed the OSX 10.11 Public Beta on Thursday.

[bayanne]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

Never use find & replace. Sidebars I use often are People, Sources, Multimedia and Places. Most likely to have been left open behind the main window, when quitting, is the People List.

-Paul

ditto ....

[macfixer]

Re: Caching Places on Startup

I believe we may have found the cause of the place caches getting rebuilt - thanks, everyone, for the input.

Hello Mark,

Is still happening for me on a Reunion 11.0.8 File that is 215 MB in size, was in Dropbox, have shifted it out of Dropbox, Open the Reunion File and deleted the 2 cache files related to places, open the the File again, still Caching Places?

File has the following info.

People 2675
Marked People 7096
Families 20985
Places 8406
Place usage Unique Places: 8394
Last names 1872
Sources 108
Fields 161
Clipboard 3 links, 8 people
Mac OS 10.11.2
Reunion Version11.0.8

Geoff W