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    Replace Source Images with PDFs

    When I converted to Reunion many years ago I had many hundreds of jpg images of source documents. I have since converted them all to PDFs with identical names (except for file type extension) in another folder. Now I would like to replace the images with those PDFs.
    I have made a duplicate copy of the Family file and was planning to move the PDFs to the same location as the images and then delete all of the images. I am expecting Reunion to search and find the PDf files.
    Is there a better way of achieving my aims?
    Regards
    MichaelQ

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    Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

    Originally posted by MichaelQ View Post
    I have made a duplicate copy of the Family file and was planning to move the PDFs to the same location as the images and then delete all of the images. I am expecting Reunion to search and find the PDf files.
    This won't work -- the PDF files have different file extensions (they end in .pdf instead of .jpg) which is part of what Reunion looks at when looking for missing multimedia files. Because of the different file extensions Reunion won't "see" the PDFs as being the missing JPGs.

    If I may ask, what's your reason for changing to PDF? And did you simply convert the JPG files you already had to PDF?

    Thanks,
    Mark Harrison
    Leister Productions, Inc.

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      Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

      Originally posted by Mark View Post
      This won't work -- the PDF files have different file extensions (they end in .pdf instead of .jpg) which is part of what Reunion looks at when looking for missing multimedia files. Because of the different file extensions Reunion won't "see" the PDFs as being the missing JPGs.

      If I may ask, what's your reason for changing to PDF? And did you simply convert the JPG files you already had to PDF?

      Thanks,
      I did simply convert the jpgs and I did so in order that they can be searched for key words and I am able to place notes etc on to them. I also like to place the source number on the documents and doing that in PDFs is less invasive.
      Can you suggest an alternative?
      Regards
      MichaelQ

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        #4
        Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

        Unfortunately, I think you're simply going to have to manually remove the JPG versions of the documents and add the PDF versions.

        Sorry I don't have a better solution,
        Mark Harrison
        Leister Productions, Inc.

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          #5
          Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

          Thank you Mark for giving your time to my request.
          Regards
          MichaelQ

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            Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

            Originally posted by Mark View Post
            Sorry I don't have a better solution,
            Could he not export a GEDCOM, find all ".jpg" and replace with ".pdf", then import that GEDCOM into a new family file?
            Dennis J. Cunniff
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              Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

              He could, however, GEDCOM is not a perfect representation of the data in your family file. For example, you would lose any marking of entries, formats for reports that you've created, and any settings that you've changed from the defaults (among other things).

              It's best not to go from Reunion Family File to a GEDCOM back to a Reunion Family File.
              Mark Harrison
              Leister Productions, Inc.

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                Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

                Originally posted by MichaelQ View Post
                I did simply convert the jpgs and I did so in order that they can be searched for key words and I am able to place notes etc on to them. I also like to place the source number on the documents and doing that in PDFs is less invasive.
                Can you suggest an alternative?
                I don't know the limitations on amount, but information can be included in the metadata for any file, including jpegs. The easiest way to do this is to highlight the file icon in the Finder and choose File>Get Info. You can then input notes and keywords in the info window. This is searchable and viewable in the Finder, but will not be visible in the image.

                If you don't need the data as a part of the image file, you can of course include notes on each image linked to Reunion by editing them in the Multimedia Window.
                Tim Lundin
                Heartland Family Graphics
                http://www.familygraphics.com

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                  Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

                  Tim thank you for your suggestion. I am assuming that you suggest I retain the jpg and insert data into file info. This would create more work on each file which is the very thing I am trying to avoid.
                  Regards
                  MichaelQ

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                    Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

                    Originally posted by ttl View Post
                    information can be included in the metadata for any file, including jpegs. The easiest way to do this is to highlight the file icon in the Finder and choose File>Get Info. You can then input notes and keywords in the info window. This is searchable and viewable in the Finder, but will not be visible in the image.
                    Interesting suggestion; I had never used the Comments field of the Get Info window before. What I observed, however, in trying it out, is that the entered comments seem to only exist in the Get Info window, and not in the actual jpeg file. By that I mean that when I subsequently opened the file in Photoshop and used its “File info” command, the comments entered in the Get Info window are nowhere to be seen in any of the metadata fields accessible through Photoshop. I don’t know how Mac OS Finder links the Get Info data with the actual image file, but I would be concerned that if such a file were copied to a Windows or other non-Mac platform, you might lose the Get Info comments.
                    Bruce Winton Christopher
                    Environment: Reunion 14 build 241014; macOS 10.15.7
                    bruce@bwchristopher.com

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                      Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

                      Originally posted by Bruce Christopher View Post
                      Interesting suggestion; I had never used the Comments field of the Get Info window before. What I observed, however, in trying it out, is that the entered comments seem to only exist in the Get Info window, and not in the actual jpeg file. By that I mean that when I subsequently opened the file in Photoshop and used its “File info” command, the comments entered in the Get Info window are nowhere to be seen in any of the metadata fields accessible through Photoshop. I don’t know how Mac OS Finder links the Get Info data with the actual image file, but I would be concerned that if such a file were copied to a Windows or other non-Mac platform, you might lose the Get Info comments.
                      Yes, you would lose the info that you put in a Get Info window.

                      You should use something to edit the file and put the metadata directly in to the file. Since you have Photoshop you can use that to put the information into the IPTC fields that will then travel with the file.

                      Roger
                      Roger Moffat
                      http://lisaandroger.com/genealogy/
                      http://genealogy.clanmoffat.org/

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                        Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

                        If I may ask, what's your reason for changing to PDF? And did you simply convert the JPG files you already had to PDF?


                        Mark,
                        Is a jpg or pdf preferred for source documents? I have both and am wondering if they should all be standardized?

                        Thanks.
                        Carole

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                          #13
                          Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

                          I believe the FINDER Get Info comments are stored in the file directory for that volume - not in the file itself. The file information you can edit in PhotoShop is stored as meta data in the IPTC headers for that file. I would assume that if you send a file to someone on a Windows computer the FINDER comments will drop off. But the IPTC headers will remain.



                          Personally, I prefer not to rely on meta data for my old photographs and record images. Mostly because I have no idea whether some future genealogist in my family that inherits my digital files will be able to access it. I prefer to use "old school" methods like adding white space under the photo with a caption or putting the caption into the file name like this:

                          WORTHDon1952InHisCubScoutUniformGlendaleCA.jpg

                          And I try to only use VERY standard file types that are likely to still be decipherable in 20 years - like jpg or tiff, pdf, txt, mp3, ged, etc.

                          Don
                          Last edited by donworth; 09 April 2016, 06:25 PM.

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                            #14
                            Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

                            Originally posted by MichaelQ View Post
                            Tim thank you for your suggestion. I am assuming that you suggest I retain the jpg and insert data into file info. This would create more work on each file which is the very thing I am trying to avoid.
                            Very helpful suggestion
                            Valencia King Nelson
                            African Family Studies
                            www.afrigeneas.com

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                              #15
                              Re: Replace Source Images with PDFs

                              Originally posted by Bruce Christopher View Post
                              I don’t know how Mac OS Finder links the Get Info data with the actual image file, but I would be concerned that if such a file were copied to a Windows or other non-Mac platform, you might lose the Get Info comments.
                              ReunionTalk is a remarkable community with an incredible combined base of knowledge. Excellent point... thanks for pointing out this pitfall!
                              Tim Lundin
                              Heartland Family Graphics
                              http://www.familygraphics.com

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