Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

[Reiner L. Sauer]

Re: Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

Sorry for the replies I have not responded to asking for my source templates. It has been a while since I checked in here. If anyone contacts me separately, I would be glad to share a clone.
Lynda
http://www.dealwithyourpast.com/familytree/

Hello Lynda,
How can we contact you?
Reiner

[Lynda]

Re: Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

Sorry for the replies I have not responded to asking for my source templates. It has been a while since I checked in here. If anyone contacts me separately, I would be glad to share a clone.
Lynda

http://www.dealwithyourpast.com/familytree/

[BigEnso]

Re: Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

Unfortunately the sharing of source templates is not possible via Reunion. That said, each source template in Reunion is completely customizable and can be made to “conform” to Evidence Explained.

As noted by another member of this thread, the process takes time to accomplish. The results, however, are worth the effort! For that matter, you can even add custom fields to sources that you can use (and) keep hidden in reports!

Over the course of using Reunion for more than ten years now, I spent well over 200 hours of my time tweaking the source fields to meet my needs ¬– mostly in preparation for professional publication. I have since successfully published that book and am very happy with the results.

Anyone interested in having a copy of my Excel sheet of source fields may email me off-list at: <apalmer6 AT Verizon.net>.

Hi Arnold.

I took you up on your very generous offer and sent you an email requesting the Excel spreadsheet. Thought I would give you a heads up in case it gets caught up in your junk filter.

David

[gilbertdh]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

This, while true in the short run, is wrong in the long run. Links rot, servers go offline, and if you want your audience to be able to find the source afterwards, you have to leave enough information to find the original source. A link really won't do except as a very temporary solution.

Yes. I did not mean just linking out to an image on a website, but having the actual image attached to your data, whether it is in Reunion, on your own website, or printed out into your book. Your citation would tell you what it is (the U.S. Census) and also where you got it (Ancestry). The link to Ancestry will eventually go dead or change, but you still have a page from the U.S. Census.

[Tina M]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

Unfortunately the sharing of source templates is not possible via Reunion. That said, each source template in Reunion is completely customizable and can be made to “conform” to Evidence Explained.

As noted by another member of this thread, the process takes time to accomplish. The results, however, are worth the effort! For that matter, you can even add custom fields to sources that you can use (and) keep hidden in reports!

Over the course of using Reunion for more than ten years now, I spent well over 200 hours of my time tweaking the source fields to meet my needs ¬– mostly in preparation for professional publication. I have since successfully published that book and am very happy with the results.

Anyone interested in having a copy of my Excel sheet of source fields may email me off-list at: <apalmer6 AT Verizon.net>.

Hi Arnold

I emailed the above address as I would be very interested in your spreadsheet if you wouldn't mind sharing it. I am a new Reunion user and still trying to get used to it and I am having some struggles with sources and this would probably help me quite a bit. My email is Tina dot Mellesmoen at gmail dot com

[Dennis J. Cunniff]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

Digitized source material has had an impact. The ability to just link to a source, or provide a scanned image of it, no longer makes it necessary to provide all of the details one did when a source had a unique or scarce physical manifestation.

This, while true in the short run, is wrong in the long run. Links rot, servers go offline, and if you want your audience to be able to find the source afterwards, you have to leave enough information to find the original source. A link really won't do except as a very temporary solution.

[gilbertdh]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

I agree with Jan. In scholarship there has been a move away from overly detailed source citation towards one that provides just enough information for someone to identify the source. Digitized source material has had an impact. The ability to just link to a source, or provide a scanned image of it, no longer makes it necessary to provide all of the details one did when a source had a unique or scarce physical manifestation.

When I first took a look at ESM I was like, you've got to be kidding. It's valuable for research techniques and evaluating evidence and sources, but the citation style tends toward the arcane.

David

[Jan Powell]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

I've red and studied ESM a number of times and must admit that – although it appears a very comprehensive scientific work - I'm unable to grasp it and integrate it within Reunion. That's why I'm interested to learn about an easy solution, but, at the same time I get frustrated when the proposed solution is just a teaser.
Regards
Reiner

I agree with you regarding ESM. I think it's like a comfort blanket for those who are uncertain about creating sources.
I have found university citation methods work well, eg Oxford or Cambridge Universities, for non-US users. Most universities have guidelines on their websites which are a good starting point.
The trick is, to create a source with sufficient fields that the user can easily locate the document in the future.

[Reiner L. Sauer]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

I think it was Lynda who originally posted about her templates, Reiner.
FWIW, don't get too hung up on ESM. Have a look around, there's plenty of other (and IMHO) better ways for source citations.

Sorry, I apologize for having directed my comment to Arnold; obviously it should have been directed to Lynda.
As you may know, the sources-situation appears to be somewhat different in Europe, compared to the situation in other countries. Unfortunately, I have so far not been able to find European Legacy-users (where ESM is supposedly integrated), who understand the complex means of automatic source generations and who are satisfied with ESM.
I've red and studied ESM a number of times and must admit that – although it appears a very comprehensive scientific work - I'm unable to grasp it and integrate it within Reunion. That's why I'm interested to learn about an easy solution, but, at the same time I get frustrated when the proposed solution is just a teaser.
Regards
Reiner

[Jan Powell]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

Dear Arnold
Are you just being difficult, or what's the problem with releasing your "Evidence Explained" templates, which you claim you have created?

I think it was Lynda who originally posted about her templates, Reiner.
FWIW, don't get too hung up on ESM. Have a look around, there's plenty of other (and IMHO) better ways for source citations.

[Reiner L. Sauer]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

I would find that to be somewhat messy.

Dear Arnold,

Are you just being difficult, or what's the problem with releasing your "Evidence Explained" templates, which you claim you have created?

Regards

Reiner Sauer

[AE Palmer]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

No, you could take your clone file with the templates in place, and then create a single person, and attach each source to that person then import that to your main family file and all of the (used) sources would import to your family file too.

Roger

I would find that to be somewhat messy.

[Kim]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

Lynda, would you be willing to share a clone copy of your file with the EE source templates? Perhaps it should be made an optional download on the Reunion site!

That would be great!

[theKiwi]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

Yes. I have used the clone feature more than once. But I do believce the OP and others want to add custom source templates to existing data sets. AFAIK, the only way that can happen is to modify each source type individually. :^(

No, you could take your clone file with the templates in place, and then create a single person, and attach each source to that person then import that to your main family file and all of the (used) sources would import to your family file too.

Roger

[B Jansen]

Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

I have edited most of the source templates in Reunion, not just free form, to align with EE as much as I can. It takes a while, but I did it as part of reviewing all of my sources (about 500) and creating correct citations for each one. Now that each template has the fields I want in the order I want, creating new citations is very easy.

Lynda, would you be willing to share a clone copy of your file with the EE source templates? Perhaps it should be made an optional download on the Reunion site!