Multimedia, Preferred Picture Option

[Bill H]

When I create a multimedia image for a person, Reunion seems to make it the preferred image option.

Am I able to stop this happening automatically?

thanks Bill

[alan]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

When I create a multimedia image for a person, Reunion seems to make it the preferred image option.

Am I able to stop this happening automatically?

thanks Bill

Hi Bill,
Yes you can. Double click the image from either the multimedia or family view
which should open up the m/media showing all images attached to that person.
At the very bottom of the page against "options", "uncheck" the preferred box
and it will no longer be shown.
What I'm not sure about, is whether you can stop this from automatically happening
when adding images.

Alan

[Bill H]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

hi Alan

thanks for this .... in fact, this what I have been doing, but after the 20th, it gets very annoying!!

Anyone else, any suggestions as to how to switch OFF this automation?

[Steve B]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

Can I just ask - why does it bother you if a particular picture is set as preferred? For any place where there is an option for a picture to be displayed, reunion needs to know which one you would wish to be shown. If you don't want any picture shown, then tell reunion not to display the preferred picture.

[Bill H]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

hi Steve

thanks for this ..... to try to answer you ....

I do not have any photographs of the vast majority of my 15K people in my Family File and so they have no preferred image. Reunion 10 gave me the opportunity to link all my .jpg images to their "owners" .... including the Gb(s) of census return images.

the process of linking these has been, and will continue to be (until I have finished) quite arduous and having to unclick the preferred image box every time I link an image to a person, only wastes time.

I think it is an error that the software ticks the preferred box automatically for me, instead of giving me the option to do this.

Bill

[Steve B]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

It's up to you of course, but I for one would not be linking images of census to people. A census is a source, and an image of a census should therefore be linked to a source record rather than to a person record. For example if you have an image of a census that shows 4 members of a family, then create a source record for that census, attach the image to the source record, and then cite that source record as a census event on each family members record. I would restrict linking images to people records to actual images of that person under normal circumstances.

[Bill H]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

mmmm I follow your logic, Steve .... I think that I might have made a problem for myself by (maybe) inputting my sources incorrectly!!

this what I have done ....
e.g. for a census of a family ....
I have a source as number: 2266 type: Census data: RG14/31671 detail: Kendal (581), Milnthorpe (4); E.D.12, #40
so all the families in the archived census book, Class RG14, Piece 31671 have the same source number, but different details depending on which page they appear.

I'm afraid I have always done it this way ..... I'm one of those people who learn by doing (correctly or incorrectly) not by reading manuals!!!

Please advise how i should have done it!! but probably it is too late to change!!!!

thanks Bill

[Steve B]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

There are different opinions on how this should be done - so my way is not the "right" way - but what I do is as follows:-

Every census image is a separate source.
So if I find an image that contains John Smith as head of household, Jane Smith as his wife, and Emma and Emily as his children - then I create a source and attach the image of that census page to it as a multimedia item. I then cite that source as a census event for each of the four people, and if it's my only evidence then I also cite that same source as the evidence for their birth dates, addresses, occupations etc.

So basically in my records every separate census page I download from ancestry is a separate source, with an image of the page attached to it.

I know some people treat "census" as a single source, but for me that is just too vague.

[Michael Talibard]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

Ditto.

[Bill H]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

I can follow your reasoning ....

and you link the multimedia image to the source?

if the family is listed across 2 pages? 2 sources?

mmmm I guess that I have enough to do with finding information, putting it into Reunion, now adding my multimedia ....... that I will leave my sources as I have done them!!

it would be interesting to start again .... but life it just too short! my 32 years of genealogical research has had many different forms of storing the data, BUT Reunion will suffice for the future!!!

again, many thanks for your inputs ..... i will continue to unfill the preferred image box!!!!

[Steve B]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

No - if the family is listed across two consecutive census pages I would create one source, and link both images for both pages to the same source.

I would mention that I picked this method up from the days when I had a PC. There's an excellent PC program called Family Historian (sorry guys - heresy to mention it here) that had an add-on program written by an amateur programmer (called Ancestral Sources) that handled adding sources and associated images automatically. Wish List Leister - can you build something similar into a future version of Reunion?

[A Ginn]

Re: Multimedia .... Preferred Option

A different take on the original question:

Now that I have nearly completed photo linking for the more recent generations, and I was lucky to have photos for the four generations before me from most branches, I am working my way through the older ancestors. Most lived pre-photography, and except for the rare instance when I can attach a painting of a famous person the only representation I have is a grave marker, a house they lived in, a plaque honoring them, etc. Over 90% of the time I am adding photos that should not be the person's preferred picture, so being able to toggle the default to OFF would be a help to me.

Actually, I would rather have the ability to link multimedia to other fields so I don't have to assign everything to the person or family. Examples:

Residences - photos, deeds
Employment - factory photos, documents
Burials - gravesite photos, deeds & funeral documents
Ships (sailors and immigrants) - photos, seaman certificates and discharges
Personal items (jewelry, tools, etc.)

Alan

[Reeds Family]

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What a great idea Alan - this is what I want also, especially being able to add gravesite photos to Burial.

This is what I have been needing without realising it and you have put it into words.

Perhaps you should submit your idea to the Wish List for Leister to consider in future updates of Reunion.

Yvonne Reeds

[Steve B]

Re: Multimedia, Preferred Picture Option

But you CAN add gravesite/headstone photos to burial facts. Enter the date of the burial (approximate if not known precisely). Now create a source for that piece of information - the source of your burial info is the photo of the gravesite.

So whilst in the burial field, click "Add Source" near the bottom of the screen under Source Citations. Here you can fill in any info you have about the burial. In particular you can link your photo of the gravesite to this source record.

You can do this for ANY fact or event. So if you say he worked in a factory as a metal worker, and you have a photo of the factory - create a source for your information that he was a metalworker, and add your photo of the factory to that source record. Then for example if his brother also worked there - simply cite the same source as evidence of that fact on your brothers record.

[theKiwi]

Re: Multimedia, Preferred Picture Option

But you CAN add gravesite/headstone photos to burial facts. Enter the date of the burial (approximate if not known precisely). Now create a source for that piece of information - the source of your burial info is the photo of the gravesite.

Linking a media to the source is NOT the same as linking the media to the event.

Some genealogy software, and the GEDCOM 5.5.1 standard allows linking media to an event.

There are good reasons to want to do that - for example on this page

http://lisaandroger.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I16&tree=Roger

I would love to link the census images to the census event, but with Reunion I have to have them as documents linked to the person and when then transferred to TNG the images are disconnected from the event on that page.

Roger